Music, Love, and a Blended Life

Mitch Tambo:
We regroup and we come together as a family and have family meetings where we just open up the conversation, check in with everyone, make sure everyone’s traveling well, set new expectations in the house. We regularly do that kind of thing and they’re real conversations, it’s not shallow stuff.

Laura Jenkins:
In The Blend is a podcast series that helps parents and step-parents navigate life in a blended family. Join me as I speak with experts and guests to get practical advice on how to create a more harmonious blended family life. Having grown up in a blended family and now a decade into raising one of my own, I bring a personal perspective to these conversations and we dive deep into the unique dynamics, logistics and challenges of raising a blended family. From new partners to juggling mixed finances, we will help guide you through it. Hello everyone, Laura here. And I want to start by saying thank you for your patience. It has been a little while in between episodes and that’s because life has been pretty full behind the scenes. Firstly, we relocated our family up to Brisbane here in Australia. I’ve also been navigating the loss of my beautiful dad and my grandma recently too. So it’s been a funny time. Just a time of big change, lots of adjustment and all the rest while we get into our new rhythm. And it just made sense to press pause on the podcast whilst holding space for all of that. But I am so happy to be back with you now and I’m excited to share that In The Blend will be returning with fresh episodes every two weeks. And in between, I’ll be dropping shorter favourite tips episodes, little nuggets of wisdom from some of our past guests that are just too good not to revisit. So to kick things off, I’m joined today by the incredibly talented singer-songwriter Mitch Tambo, who some of you might remember from Australia’s Got Talent a few years back. and also his wife, Voice of Lele, who is also a singer. We sit down to chat about their journey through family, step-parent identity and co-parenting. It is such a rich, genuine conversation that I know you will love. They were lots of fun to chat with. Well, thank you again for being here. Let’s dive in. Okay, now welcome to In The Blend, Mitch Tambo and voice of Lele. It is wonderful to have you both here.

Voice of Lele:
Thank you for having us.

Laura Jenkins:
Oh, it is a pleasure. I’m excited to be chatting today. Now, let’s just get straight into it. I want to start with your story. So can you share how you two met and what drew you to each other initially?

Mitch Tambo:
For sure, yummy. Thank you for having us. I think what really drew us together was our love and passion for our cultures and what we really want to achieve and admit out into the world.

Laura Jenkins:
I love it. I love it. So Lele, you brought three beautiful daughters into the relationship, as far as I understand.

Voice of Lele:
That’s correct.

Laura Jenkins:
And you’ve both now had a daughter together. So four girls. Four girls in the house. That would keep you busy. So tell me, what were some of the initial apprehensions or perhaps conversations that you might have both had at the outset when you met each other and it came to making that decision to become a blended family?

Mitch Tambo:
Lele didn’t have any. I was full of fear. I was full of fear because I had grown up as that kid with a single mum and I knew the weight of stepping into it and didn’t want to step into it lightly. So I had fear and reservations around my worthiness, whether I was good enough, being rejected, all those kinds of things and not wanting to fail Lele and the kids. So for me, I had to come to a place where I made an informed decision that was led by my heart and knowingness that Lele was the woman that I wanted to be with and journey with and that the kids weren’t just an extension of Lele, they were Lele and it was all encompassing. So we had many conversations. We courted and dated for a good 12 months. We’re intimate, we didn’t kiss, anything like that. We just talked and talked out our dreams and what we could achieve together and asked each other some really serious and real questions until we come to a place of, this is it for us, let’s do it, you know?

Voice of Lele:
Yeah. So there were a lot of conversations, no decision was made lightly or, you know, any impulsive anything. I feel like, yes, we were well prepared going into it. Of course, it changes when you go in there and you’re actually in it, you know, but I did, Mitch was right from the get go. I just knew deep in my heart and my spirit that, that he would be just fine because he just is a man that’s full of, um, love and integrity, patience. And also, I just immediately felt a big sense of like security and protection when I was with him, when I’m around him.

Laura Jenkins:
I love that. Mitch, coming back to what you said about the kids being part of La Lair, I just think that’s beautiful because that’s exactly it. And good on you for having that foresight before you dived in because it is the whole package when you’re becoming a blended family and getting together with somebody who’s already got children.

Mitch Lambo:
Totally. And it is the whole package. And for us, the label or the notion of blended is a beautiful way to say different kids from different relationships, but we don’t look at it as blended. And that’s not a part of our belief system, which heaped more pressure onto that decision as well, because it was like you’re either in or you’re out here and this isn’t just you’re kicking back watching TV and whatever those kids do they do because they’re not your blood. I could never live that way. The girl’s father is very present in their life but we’ve all come together and chose to be adults and understand that the girls have two fathers and they’re both there and they both offer different things and those things are both of high value and they both love strongly for the kids and that’s what it’s all about. With the girls, our eldest, Sophie, she sat me down and asked to call me dad. Offer, she calls me Mitch. Kalani, I’ve been with since she was a baby. She calls me uncle dad and Phoenix calls me daddy. So there’s four daughters, four different relationships and our heart as a collective is all for them and their success. And that’s what it’s really all about. I think like in the concept of blended and step and all those labels, what it does is I think it diminishes that step parent role in the house and it devalues it. And I get that a lot. And Lele often gets a bit frustrated with it because it’s almost like, Oh my God, you’ve done such a great job with the kids. Like that step parent has never been involved. They just kick them back, work, you know, just twiddling their thumbs. Where in actual fact, It’s like if you’re invested and they’re your kids, you’re there too. You’re at the parent-teacher interviews. You’re there at the first heartbreak. You are there. But somewhere along the lines in society, I think with that ideology around the perfect nuclear family, when it comes to blended families and all that kind of things, there’s a little bit of devaluing or diminishing the relationship of the non-biological parent that’s in the household.

Laura Jenkins:
Yeah, that’s spot on, Mitch. And that does tend to happen. And there’s all these stereotypes and other preconceived thoughts about step families that are out there in society. But it’s music to my ears to hear you talking in the way that you do, Meech. And I just love that you embrace the modern family as one and you’re in or you’re out. I love it.

Voice of Lele:
There’s still music to my ears too.

Laura Jenkins:
Yes, yeah, I bet, Lele, I bet that would be very, very nice to hear. Now, let’s talk a little bit about when you had Phoenix as well. So how did that change the dynamic when Phoenix came along?

Mitch Tambo:
I think it strengthened the dynamic. Phoenix is like the unsung, almost glue of the family now, I think. She’s sort of bridged us all together in this way now that does transcend step half and all that kind of thing. It’s just, she’s brought us all together on a whole nother level, I guess. I mean, we don’t really think about it too much because we all look at each other as a family, but I think when you ask that question, that’s kind of what’s happened, isn’t it?

Voice of Lele:
Absolutely. She’s definitely the glue. It’s also been amazing to watch the three older kids see Mitch as a dad to their newborn sister. You know, I think looking as older siblings, like watching, like they’ve never seen that. So I think that was a really beautiful moment and process as well. You know, I think it really deepened their love and respect for Mitch as a dad, because now they’ve seen him on a different, like through a different perspective. a different version of him, if that makes sense?

Laura Jenkins:
Yeah, it makes total sense. And I like how you referred to her as the glue there as well, because I think that’s a really nice way of summarizing what you said there. So blended families, and I know this through my own personal experience, I’ve got two big kids and two little kids now. They come with both joy. Yes, I know they go all the way from 16 now down to six. Um, but they, they come with plenty of joy and of course they also come with complexity. So it sounds to me from, from, um, just from talking so far that there’s been plenty of joy that your blended family in inverted commas, uh, has, you know, has brought, has brought to you. Um, but, but what have been some of the challenging moments along the way?

Voice of Lele:
I would say one of the challenges that stick out to me is Kalani. So she’s our third born and she was, Mitch came into our life when she was, she just turned two. So she has no memory of, of life without Mitch. But like Mitch mentioned earlier, their dad is quite present in their life. So I think there was some moments there where she struggled a little bit with who she felt was dad. Because they live with us full time, they’re with their biological dad every other weekend. I think she struggled a little bit with who is dad at home and dad who she sees on every other weekend. And even though the dad who she sees every other weekend is her biological dad, I think being with Mitch at home, being with Uncle Dad every day, him being around her through all the ups and downs and everything in between, I feel like she has a deeper, a different level of depth in the relationship. So I feel like she struggled with that a little bit, but also being the baby of the family when Phoenix came into our world, I think that was a little bit of a challenge as well because she went from the baby to now being a big sister and then she goes to her biological dad’s house and she’s a little baby there. I think we had to navigate through that.

Mitch Tambo:
Yeah, for sure. And I think I think also it is good and it is positive and it’s all the things that we’ve talked about. But the reality is in those initial years and even now as a man in the house of four daughters, there’s immense learning curves that you find yourself in, especially me. I grew up just very much around boys and that’s it. So to be on the flip side of the first heartbreak of late night runs to Coles, to get the monthlies, navigating through PMS, it’s all a real thing. And people laugh, but I have developed this PMS radar. I know before Lily, I’m like, it’s that time of the month that I’m going to take it to heart. She’s like, what do you mean? It was just weeks ago. I said, no, it’s just PMSing for sure. sure enough, I developed this radar. It’s hectic and it’s a real thing. And that’s exactly how he says it. I’m like, man, what’s going on? PMS, TNT, it’s all explosive. But it’s been a big learning curve and I think As a man, it’s grown another level, I think, of empathy and, I guess, this softness that you develop in having daughters because you see the whole other side of everything, like the breakup, the ripple effect of that through the house. That was a big challenge.

Voice of Lele:
A big challenge. A big challenge was the first breakup because our kids go from 19 to 3. Yeah.

Laura Jenkins:
So you’ve got a full spectrum as well.

Mitch Tambo:
It’s the whole spectrum. It’s, you know, it’s, what is it? It’s boyfriends, Barbie dolls and nappies. It’s the whole, whole thing. Pull-ups now. Pull-ups now. You know, you have to really check yourself. Especially for me, I think coming in, you know, I was sort of coming in at the start of our eldest, her about to go into, you know, prepubescence and all that and become a teenager. So that was my first look into all of that. You know, I wasn’t there. My first, closest baby was Clarnie. She was two. And then all these other dynamics with our elder skills that I didn’t have time to grow and progress and understand. I was just chucked in and had to get ready real fast and be there really fast and learn things. But it wasn’t so much the being there fast and the learning things. I think it’s overcoming your own self-doubt and your own unsurety about yourself and whether you can handle it or not. But when you step into it and embrace it, It’s a great, it’s all great, you know. It’s a big, one big ongoing learning curve forever, I think.

Laura Jenkins:
So, I’m curious to know, do you have any family rituals or maybe practices, big or small, they could be, that help your household to feel connected and grounded given you’ve got 19 down to three?

Mitch Tambo:
Yeah, that’s a great question. I think with what we do in life and entertainment, I’m on the road like most weeks all over different parts of the country and it’s really crazy. So I wouldn’t say from my perspective that we have any rituals or practices that we implement on a regular basis. However, we regroup and we come together as a family and have family meetings where we just open up the conversation, check in with everyone, make sure everyone’s traveling well, set new expectations in the house. Um, where we regularly do that kind of thing and they’re real conversations. It’s not shallow stuff. Like these conversations that we have, they can span from anywhere from two hours to four hours in conversation, um, where we really reconnect and come together. And then there’s obviously the things that we have implemented. within our family unit as a part of setting new traditions and breaking cycles as well. So for example, over Christmas, we started a Christmas family Olympics and we just get everyone up in the house. It’s a big day of just activities. There’s teams, there’s competition, there’s prizes, but it’s just all about, I think, being intentional and creating moments so that we can create memories. Because at the end of the day, like Lele and I, we could be at Rod Laver Arena doing the Australian Open. We could be anywhere, you know, but the memories that we really want to create that are forever lasting is, you know, Family Olympics. It’s coming together. It’s creating, you know, we might have theme parties. We invite the whole family over and we’re all in onesies. We try to do things here and there that are intentional towards creating memories. Yeah, for sure.

Laura Jenkins:
I love it. I love it. You guys are setting the standard for the modern family. It’s awesome. And I might have to pitch the Olympics idea for my household. You’ll love it.

Mitch Tambo:
We played musical chairs that went for about an hour and a half, put it that way. That’s how competitive it gets.

Voice of Lele:
It was way too long. It was ridiculous.

Mitch Tambo:
Everyone got burnt over musical chairs and we couldn’t even finish the Olympics. Everyone just wanted to pass out on the couch, but we got pretty far, didn’t we?

Voice of Lele:
It was awesome because everyone went home early that night.

Mitch Tambo:
They did, for the first time in history. Usually there’s no home time. There’s no end, yeah.

Laura Jenkins:
Oh my gosh. Oh dear. Sounds like fun. Well, many of our listeners of this show, they’re in the thick of step parenting and like you guys, what advice would you give to someone? And I might ask this of you, Mitch. As someone who’s stepping into a family structure like yours and they’re a step-parent, they may or may not have children of their own, what advice would you give them, especially when they’re getting involved with someone who already has kids from the beginning?

Mitch Tambo:
Yeah, it’s a great question, and it could be a lengthy one, so I won’t ramble too much. I’ll just say, if you’re ready to step into that and you’ve thought long and hard about it, then you’ve just got to trust the process, be patient, and not take everything to heart while you’re navigating it. Because at the end of the day, just as much of a shift as it is for you, it is for the kids. And they’re just trying to work it all out and build trust for you as well and get comfortable enough with you to show you who they really are. And sometimes I think, you know, we can take things to heart. Oh my God, what was up with that attitude? Why are they so quiet? What’s going on here? And we can fall into our own hurt little child we haven’t dealt with. And we stop adulting where really what we have to do is just relax and breathe. And it’s just like, oh, they just had a crap day at school. It’s not that big of a deal. Like I’m not the problem here. And I think sometimes when you’re jumping in as a step-parent and someone that hasn’t never had kids before, it’s easy to fall into the whole like, why me? Why am I not good enough? Why am I, am I the problem? What am I doing wrong? Like I’m doing everything I can where it’s like, no, you’re doing a great job, but Kids are just kids and kids have ups and downs. They’ve gone through puberty. They’re trying to work it all out. They’re trying to, you know, gain this trust of you’re not going to leave too. I don’t want another breakdown. There’s so many things that’s happening in their world. So you’ve just got to step back and relax. And I think when you relax, and just ease your way into it and just start being light and showing who you really are and having fun and just being all you, that’s where there can be just little breakthroughs that are just, they’re great breakthroughs, you know? So I think there’s heaps to it, but that would just be the start of my advice, yeah.

Laura Jenkins:
I love it. I love everything you said there, Mitch. And it makes me think about a previous guest on the show who talked about kids’ behavior being a bit like an iceberg. And what we see is just the tip of the iceberg, but all those things you mentioned are going on in their world underneath, which you may or may not know about. Yeah, I love that approach.

Mitch Tambo:
We get caught up in like living this adult world and the pressures and it’s so easy to get so bogged down and over consumed where you forget what it was like once. And the thing is, is like they do have their own world and they have their own battles and struggles going on. And sometimes because they’re not paying, you know, a massive mortgage and paying bills and cars, we go into this default of like, that doesn’t matter. But the reality is, is like they’re navigating crushes, relationship breakdown, friends betrayal, maybe bullying, and teachers treating them like rubbish at school. There’s all these different things that’s going on to them that is impacting their world. And the whole iceberg analogy, it’s so true because at the top, you just go, what’s up with that attitude? Underneath it, there’s all this stuff that’s happening in their own, in their own world. And then they’re creating and paving their own way in their own world. And they turn into young adults. And I think the more that. that we can come back to the table and have these conversations the better. And that’s why we’ve been intentional with that. Like we can’t do this whole weekly thing because of the life we lead, but we make sure when we have time that it’s purposeful, it’s meaningful, and we want them to feel free to talk with us. And Lele and I got this thing where I’m like, look, if you’ve got to tell your mum something that’s going on that she’s going to go off at, just say, mom, just for five minutes, I need you to just hear me out just as a friend for a second, and then we’ll deal with whatever later. So that way they feel free to unload. And if they’ve mucked up or done something wrong, it’s better they come to us for the advice and then goes to someone else where they’re going to get wrong advice. So we just try and do those little things.

Voice of Lele:
Yeah. And I think even for me, that’s something that I’ve had to learn and teach myself because I’m also trying not to parent the way that I was parented, you know, where I didn’t have the freedom to be open about my love life at 17 or, you know, I had a fight with my friend and it’s just, well, you know, the Island way, the old school Islander parents, we just didn’t talk about anything. So Mitch has really helped me become much a better and more open parent. So with my girls, when, with our girls, sorry, when I say, when they come and say, Oh mom, I need to talk to you as a, as a friend. I’m like, Lord, okay, I’m ready. You know, I’m ready.

Laura Jenkins:
Oh, I love that. Yeah, that’s a really nice way to do it. So they know they’ve always got a safe space. Yeah. Yeah.

Voice of Lele:
Safety for them.

Laura Jenkins: 
Yeah. Now we’re going to switch gears a little bit here. Mitch, I hear you’ve got a powerful new song out called Blackfellas. Can you tell us a little bit about the meaning behind it and what inspired you to release it now?

Mitch Tambo:
For sure. For anyone out there, for this song and this song title, you have my permission to just say it’s called Blackfellas because there’s so many people I’ve talked to and they’re so scared to say this song title. But look, that’s the name of it. It’s called Blackfellas. It’s a celebration of our beautiful community. This song come out in 2005 by a hip hop group called Local Knowledge, and I become really close with one of the original rappers, A.B. Wright. And I said to him one day, I said, Unc, we need to bring this sucker back. This was such an epic song back in the day. Let’s make it into, you know, 2025 and let the people feel the love of all of our community. So I got him on board to bring all that old school, early 2000s flavor. I got a good young brother boy of mine called Jamal Yemi. He’s an incredible rapper, up and coming rapper. And I’m singing the hook and spitting some bars in language and we just turned it into a big 2025 celebration and party and I’m really looking forward to bringing it to life and having them both feature on this track for sure.

Laura Jenkins:
Amazing. How good. And you’ve got a children’s book coming out later in the year as well. Is that right, Mitch?

Mitch Tambo:
I’m getting gangsta and then I’m bringing out a kid’s book and it’s crazy, right? So yeah, I’ve got my own kid’s books coming out, I Am Me. And that’s all about exploring and celebrating identity. And that’s for everyone. Because you know what, when the general sort of comment that I always get is, Mitch, I don’t have culture. You know, my people just come across from Ireland. I don’t know nothing. And it’s like, well, if you look back In fact, in the Irish heritage, there’s a massive culture there. There’s clan groups, different dialects, there’s customs and ceremonial things. There’s so many things to explore. And we live in this beautiful country where there’s so many cultures here. So I wanted to create a book that is conversational and opens up that conversation of celebrating each other’s cultural background through learning about mine.

Laura Jenkins:
Oh, I love it. Man of many talents, Mitch.

Mitch Tambo:
Oh, just a crazy, one crazy dude. I don’t know about talents, but we get crazy.

Laura Jenkins:
Lele, your new single, E-Mambo is out right now. So what is the story behind the song and what message do you want people to take away from it?

Voice of Lele:
So E-mambo is a very old West Papuan song and it’s sung in a dialect of the South of West Papua. It’s a song that’s quite old. It was only ever performed the traditional way with a tifa drum and vocals. The song is about two brothers who went missing in the jungle of West Papua. And all the villagers went out and looked for the brothers, found them and brought them home safely. And so the song is It’s a song in the dialect of the South of West Papua. There are hundreds of different languages in West Papua, but it’s one of those songs that everybody in the whole country knows and celebrates together. So this song has a very important message because that’s kind of how the West Papuan people feel, you know, we’re all kind of family members who are a little bit lost trying to all come together and unify and find ourselves again under just really incredible hard lives that we’re living in our country back home. If that makes sense.

Laura Jenkins:
Oh, wow. It does. It does. I am. Yes. Well, I encourage everyone to have a listen and we are going to link to all of those good things that Mitch and Lele have got out in the world in the show notes. Now, as we wrap up, one final question for you both between music, parenting and all the things you’ve got going on in between in your busy schedules. How do you make time for each other?

Mitch Tambo:
Laura, why would you ask that on the way out? We had such a good run. Oh my gosh.

Everyone just stare at me. You know what, there’s this, we live in this world right now and it’s all holistic and it’s all turning and it’s all about mindfulness and wellness and, you know, be mindful when you’re chewing that steak and all that kind of stuff. And we love all that. We love all that, you know, but there’s one word in there and it’s called balance. And you might as well chuck that out the window when you live in our world. We live in a world where, you know, we work 16, 18 hour days some days. We’re all over the country, different parts of the world. So the reality is, is to look at it as just balancing, like a balancing act is just not achievable. What we do is we juggle and we juggle like crazy and we make it work and we set our intent of what we want to achieve within our family. And you know what? It’s never perfect. But the more that we keep setting our intention to what we want our family to look like, and especially that time with each other, I think we’re getting better at making that happen. So for me, I come up, well, we both come up from families that did it really tough financially. So there’s that notion to just pretty much just work your guts out and go crazy. And that’s sometimes my kryptonite because I’m more than happy to work like a madman, but you have to set that aside sometimes, block time out to go and do something. So for me, Lele’s like, you know, we’re going to do more things. So this year, I try to do better, you know? We’ve been to like, what, three concerts or something in the last couple of months or I don’t know, but we’re doing better. We do great. We might go to Italy at the end of the year. I would do that.

Voice of Lele:
The amazing thing is we’re also, we’re not like other couples. We actually work together a lot. We do take a lot of that. We use that time as well to, you know, go and see a movie or we do spend a lot of time together. So we do intentionally make, you know, even if it’s an hour or two where even us going to the gym together, like that’s for me, that’s enough.

Mitch Tambo:
You’ve got to take the wins when you can take them. I think, you know, we work crazy jobs. We’ve got a pretty big tribe for 2025, you know, four girls that all have different needs, but it is just about trying to just set aside and enjoy that time when it pops up. And like Lele said, we do work together. We do a lot together, but we’re trying to take it to another level with that intentionality of like, trying to almost go, those work moments can’t count. We actually have to go and do something. So that’s where, yeah, we’ve gone to a few concerts this year and we’re talking about a bit of a trip maybe over to Italy, which will be nice, but it is, it’s a big juggle and I don’t think you can ever get that juggle and act right, but you got to set your intention and put what matters at the top and then go from there, I think, you know.

Laura Jenkins:
I love that and great how you’re weaving in that, that us time into your day to day, uh, in between the concerts and the date nights and, and the other things that you can pepper in more intentionally.

Mitch Tambo:
Totally. And I mean, even with the work and the tours, it’s about just going, you know, if, if I’m, if I’m away too long, like you just have to get on a plane and just come see me and money doesn’t matter, you know, because at the end of the day, I didn’t grow up with a dad. I saw him once every 10 weeks and I don’t want to be a dad that is in the house but not in the house and we miss that time. So it’s about going, look, if I’m away for a minute and you see a change in the girls, let’s book a flight and just come get crazy with us for a bit and we’ll fly you back. You have to juggle to find the way. And the only way to do that, I think, is to put what’s truly important at the top and start making everything else work around that as best you can.

Laura Jenkins:
Yeah. I couldn’t agree more, Mitch

Mitch Tambo:
Because you kind of set me up for this last question, damn yo!

Laura Jenkins:
Well, thank you both. It’s just been such a pleasure chatting with you this afternoon. And I’m sure all of our listeners will take so much away from your words of wisdom and just getting a little bit of a glimpse into your world and how you do things. So thank you again and hope to have you back on the show again soon.

Mitch Tambo:
Thank you for having us. And to all the parents out there, step parents, parents, parents in general, you know, at the end of the day, we’re all just doing the best with what we got. And the more that we can just dive in and look within, the more tools we can acquire and the better we become. But we can’t just get on top of ourselves and judge ourselves and run ourselves down, because you know what? Whenever the sun comes up tomorrow is another great opportunity to have another crack fit, you know?

Voice of Lele:
Exactly what I wanted to say, just one day at a time. Just focus on today. Worry about tomorrow, tomorrow. That’s it.

Mitch Tambo:
That’s enough from me. I’m out of here. Talk to Lele. It’s being real. Peace.

Laura Jenkins:
Oh, too good. I love it. One foot in front of the other.

Voice of Lele:
That’s it. I say that. I say those words to the girls at least. five days a week. One foot in front of the other. That’s all you’ve got to do. Just one foot in front of the other.

Mitch Tambo:
Yeah. Sometimes we’re a bit complicated. We get in our head and we just got to try and be kind to ourselves. on’t we? Kids don’t realize that this is our first time as well and we’re just doing the best that we can. And you know, if we’re blessed, we’ll grow together and we’ll both come out the other side semi unharmed. You know what I mean?

Laura Jenkins:
That’s it. I liked how you said semi. All right. Thanks again. Bye now.

Laura Jenkins:
Well, how good was that? Thank you so much for joining me for that fabulous conversation with Mitch Tambo and Voice of Lele. I just loved hearing their stories and their honesty, their courage. So I hope you found a little something in there that resonated with you on your own journey. If you enjoyed today’s episode, I would be so grateful if you could take a moment to rate or review the show on your favorite podcasting app. It really does help others in blended families find us. Don’t forget, I’ll be back next week with a short In The Blend Bites episode or favorite tips as they’re formerly known, sharing one of my favorite tips from a past guest. And then we’ll be back with another full episode the week after that. Thanks again for listening and I’ll catch you soon. Thanks for listening to the In The Blend podcast. The show notes for this episode are available at intheblend.com.au. And if you like what you heard, be sure to subscribe and please rate and review in your podcasting app. You can also follow me on Facebook, Instagram, and LinkedIn.